[CLINT]: I’m going to lay it out one time just on the podcast for everyone to hear. Strength is the number one, the number one principle to having longevity in regards to reducing of any type of pain. So even though we’re doing cardio, you got to still mix in a strength training at least several times a day to keep up that muscle. [MELISSA]: The Bomb Mom podcast is part of the Practice of the Practice Podcast Network, a family of podcasts, that are making the world better. You’ll also probably like the Imperfect Thriving podcast, Beta Male Revolution, and Empowered and Unapologetic podcast. Check them out at www.practiceofthepractice.com/network. Hey, what’s up everyone? If you’re looking to be inspired, motivated, educated, and entertained, you have come to the right place. Welcome to the Bomb Mom podcast, the podcast where we explore your fitness, life mindsets, and actions that help you become unstoppable. You’re worth it and it’s time to finally make changes in your life that will last you the rest of your life. Welcome back to the Bomb Mom podcast. I’m Melissa Vogel, your host, and today, we are learning all about Body of Youth, how to achieve that body of youth. We’re going to be talking resistance training. We’re going to be talking about living a functional, healthy, sustainable life the right way. And our guest is absolutely phenomenal. His name is Clint Harwick. He’s an elite athlete. He’s an ex professional baseball player for the Baltimore Orioles and he has work experience in acute neuro outpatient orthopedics and in the hospital setting. He’s done personal training for professional athletes. He has experience with VO2 testing, nutrition, stress testing, like, you name it, this guy has it. And he’s also an exercise science major as his undergrad, he’s a physical therapist, and he’s working on his last year of becoming a doctor in physical therapy. This is a real treat, you guys, to have him on and he’s going to be talking about how to take a whole approach to wellness. Using an entire lifestyle assessment, going through from everything from nutrition to your exercise routine, your hobbies, work life, sleep habits, everything, you name it. So, sit back and relax and enjoy how you can achieve a body of youth. Hey, everyone, and welcome to our episode today. We have a really, really cool guest. We have Clint Harwick on here. Did I get your name right? [CLINT]: You got it right. You nailed it. [MELISSA]: I get everyone’s name wrong. It’s like this running joke now. But Clint, you have such an amazing story and background and what you’re doing now. And that’s why I just thought, I’m like, he’s got to be on the show, because this podcast – I know it’s called Bomb Mom podcast, but we dive into everything, you know, with health, wellness. And you guys, when you hear Clint’s story, I mean, he used to play for the Baltimore Orioles – that’s baseball, for those of you that don’t know. [CLINT]: Nailed it. [MELISSA]: It’s sad that I have to say that. [CLINT]: No, it’s all good. Some people don’t know that team, you know, it’s a… [MELISSA]: Yeah, some people don’t know. But I just love your approach with the whole person aspect to wellness, because that’s exactly what I preach, and train, and get people to focus on because we’re just so engulfed in instant gratification, like, oh, it’s just this, just that. Tell us a little bit about what you’re currently doing and then I want to take you backwards. We’re going to do this backwards. So, tell us a little bit about what you’re currently doing with the whole person approach that you take right now. [CLINT]: Totally so outside of my normal day to day of seeing patients five days a week in the acute setting, I do some online, one on one sessions with people, and essentially what I’m doing right now is I’m giving a whole person approach and perspective to what it means to essentially live a healthy and kind of active lifestyle. And a lot of times we see it, time and time again, in any one facet of life, either they get in this routine, they start their diet, they do it for three weeks and then they get a little bit of results and then they shut it down. Or they’re in this exercise regimen and they go in, they’re all motivated, they’ll get into one month, you know, it’s the daily gym sign up that you always see, hey, sign up for 10 bucks a month. And then next thing you know, they got you on the current and you’re paying for the next 12 months and you’ve gone twice. That’s the common gym formula that you see out there. And what I feel like a lot of times what we’re missing is, we’re missing all the key little aspects in between, what it really means to live a healthy life filled with longevity. And I think a lot of times when we look around too, we look at all these different healthy models, and all these different approaches to health. We have all these different diets, Whole30, Atkins, Keto, you name it, you’ve seen it out there. Take this supplement, take this protein shake, take this, do this workout program, this is the best one, this burns the most calories, this burns the most fat. I mean, how many times has this been just thrown in all of our faces? Because we have to remember.. [MELISSA]: Wait, you mean all that’s wrong? Wait, what? [CLINT]: Right. Right. It’s the common formula. What is kind of frustrating at times for being someone who’s on the inside world of all, just like yourself, you kind of know what is right versus what is wrong. And unfortunately, not everyone gets to have that type of vision because a lot of times it becomes a sales pitch to a lot of people, and you get the hey, sign up for this new supplement, and it’s gonna burn this much fat in this amount of days, right? [MELISSA]: Yeah, and we trust. [CLINT]: And we trust. Absolutely. And I think one of the biggest things that we can do as professionals leading the charge in the health industry is knowing that this just doesn’t start with one specific asset, like, meaning we don’t just start with the exercise. We don’t just start with the nutrition. We don’t just start with the sleeping habits. Let’s look at every single facet of where they’re coming from, what their life story has been thus far. What are their hobbies? What is their work situation like? How many kids do they have? What environment are they living in? What financial burdens do they have? And then, this leads to now, where’s their motivation at? What things motivate them versus what things don’t motivate them? I mean, at the end of the day, we can sit here and talk about all these different diet plans and go down the realm of nutrition facts and all that. But really, any exercise regimen and nutrition plan is nonexistent unless someone has some sort of motivation to be able to perform the task at hand. [MELISSA]: Right. Absolutely. [CLINT]: And it’s one of those things that if we don’t have motivation at the start, how will we ever have motivation at the finish? And at the end of the day, there is no finish line towards taking care of our health and towards always improving our health and putting the next best step forward. And I think a lot of people fear this, right? Hey, let’s sign up for the gym membership. That’s $29.99 a month, I’m gonna go in, and this is what I know. I think fear in general is a big outlet for a lot of people because they don’t really understand – and that’s the main component, is understanding why you’re doing something. If we don’t understand why we’re doing this specific approach, how would we ever continue that for a long period of time? I don’t know about you but like, let’s say I go to the bank, and I pull out $300. I want to know where that $300 came from, right? Because I want to know why I’m getting $300. It doesn’t just like magically appear in an account. And then we say, oh, here’s $300 at random. You know the why’s, and so you know why you’re getting paid. And that is like this sense of, okay, I want to now make more money, or I want to now have more financial freedom, and the same thing goes along in the health space. Go for it. [MELISSA]: People don’t do that. They just want like, okay, just tell me what to do. And they don’t want to dive into this ‘why’. [CLINT]: Hundred percent. [MELISSA]: Do think it’s like, they’re scared to really know, the fear behind it or, like, even just… then that finger has to come back to them and like, shit, I’m in this position because I put myself here, because of the decisions I made. Do you think that scares people from really understanding their why too? [CLINT]: I think at the end of the day, anything can be very overwhelming. And in a saturated environment where you’re getting all these different diets and fads thrown in your face, it almost becomes a place of where do I start? Where do I begin? Who do I trust? Who do I not trust? And all of these things get thrown at you at once when you start entering this circle, and this ring. So, then it becomes, you put your guard up, your walls up, who do I really want to trust? Who do I really trust with the amount of knowledge that they have? Because now you’re getting all different walks of life, and different levels of education. So, there’s really this kind of fluctuation that is going on within the system where it makes it kind of troublesome for people to really want to ask for help, and really want to know the why. And I think in our realm of things, the best thing we can do is give 100% empathy towards where that person is standing, where their mission is, where they want to go, and building trust. Because without trust, there’s absolutely nothing in a marriage, in your exercise program, in a relationship of any setting, business. That’s kind of the main pillar towards any success and longevity. [MELISSA]: Right, and you’re a physical therapist, correct? [CLINT]: Yeah, so I’m finishing my Doctor of Physical Therapy right now. [MELISSA]: Nice. [CLINT]: Yeah. You talk about so many years of school, that’s like 10 years. [MELISSA]: Right. And that’s one of the reasons why I loved your history and your background and your knowledge. Because you get to see… you’re not just a trainer, you know, you’re not just a gym rat, like, pumping weights. I mean, maybe you are, but you have that other side of you with the physical therapy aspect, and the background, and the school, and the knowledge, and that really opens your eyes to each client, you know, each person that you work with. And then you can bring that into the fitness, the whole fitness world. [CLINT]: Hundred percent. When you’re seeing someone who is – we call this type of setting like a bed bound patient, meaning someone that has trouble just getting out of bed, maybe suffers from really bad congestive heart failure, or they have a lot of comorbidities that have left them in this specific state or they just had a stroke, whatever it may be, right? If we can exercise and we can create a quality of life out of someone who is even on a ventilator – because we really practice and we preach early mobility even when someone’s on a ventilator because we know their recovery is going to be ten times quicker after they get off the vent and they’ll be home safely. So these people that are at the lowest of low in regards to health decline, and parameters, and vital signs, if these people are capable of exercising and we’re capable of moving, imagine how much we can do with the general population, with let’s just say even maybe one co-morbidity, right? So just even like one thing, let’s say like, obesity – that’s a massive topic that leads to so many different things, but it doesn’t need to be something that we need to hide behind. Let’s express it. Let’s start building trust around it. Let’s start identifying it. Let’s start dealing with not only the physical but the psychosocial aspects of it. And let’s start building a plan that drives longevity for the future because that is what builds someone’s trust. That’s what builds someone’s longevity. That’s what, when you see people that have a healthy lifestyle for 30 plus years after that specific circumstances, I always call them. [MELISSA]: Yeah, and that’s sustainability. [CLINT]: Absolutely. [MELISSA]: Oh, that is so key, and I swear to God, I’m gonna like throw-punch the next person that like, Melissa, can you help me lose like, this 20 pounds in six weeks? And I’m like, bitch if we do that, like, you’re gonna have 30 pounds on in the next three months cos you didn’t learn anything. [CLINT]: Yeah, yeah. And at the end of the day, there’s… how many different diets are out there? [MELISSA]: Oh, my God, it’s so overwhelming. [CLINT]: We can name 50 of them, I feel like. But at the end of the day, no one tells you that any diet, any specific nutritional regimen, if someone is trying to lose weight, it’s a simple – about as basic as you could possibly get – formula: you have to consume less calories in then calories you’ve burned. [MELISSA]: Oh my god, will you marry me? Amen. [CLINT]: Right, right. [MELISSA]: I love guests that bring that up and like we don’t even talk about that beforehand, because you’re right. It’s so fucking simple. I just wish people would get it. It’s simple. It’s very simple. You don’t have to go keto, in a state of ketosis, like, oh my God. [CLINT]: Oh, yeah. Or the low carbohydrate Atkins, we’re now you’re having brain fog, and dizziness, and you don’t keep up the same levels. You’re always fatigued because you’ve gone through this high state of high carb diet for so long, and then you shut it down and go into this huge low carb diet and your body doesn’t even know how to approach that. [MELISSA]: Yep. [CLINT]: And then you wonder why, okay, why do I feel worse being on the diet? Okay, I’ve lost 20 pounds, but then I’m just going to fly right back into what I was doing because I almost felt better. And it felt like, at the end of the day, I was doing less sacrifice just living my normal life. [MELISSA]: Right. I have so many women that come into my program, and just their mindset and their focus around food has to be flipped and switched so drastically because they think, I’m going to eat, I’m going to get fat. And I’m like, true, but it’s all about what you’re eating (A), and sometimes women come in and they actually start eating breakfast, and they actually start eating real food, and they lose weight. And they’re so scared because they have this diet mentality, of like, I just got to starve myself to eat, and they have no loving relationship with food. [CLINT]: And then that’s what becomes the problem, especially in our female generation. If we look around, we see so much of let’s just do cardio and no strength training. How often have we seen that? Strength… I’m going to lay it out one time, just on the podcast, for everyone to hear. Strength is the number one, the number one principle to having longevity in regards to reducing of any type of pain. Women are more notorious to have osteoporosis and osteopenia later in life. And with that, we need to be able to load bone, because the more we load, the more that bone gets stressed. The more stress creates more osteoblastic activity, less incidences of osteoporosis, osteopenia, all of these things. So even though we’re doing cardio, you got to still mix in strength training at least several times a day to keep up that muscle mass. [MELISSA]: Absolutely. Oh my god, I hope everyone heard that. If not, I’m going to like, edit this and put it on repeat. Loop it, so like, you’re just saying it again and again. [CLINT]: I just think there’s this massive ideology on, if I lift weights, I’m gonna get huge, but in actuality, if you lift weights, you’re burning more calories quicker and you’re staying stronger; that muscle is becoming more dense. You’re now capable of holding all those joints in place. You’re capable of moving with a better mobility in general because now those joints are protected, right? It’s like, imagine going out and walking, or running for all we could talk about, but what is what protects the joint? The muscles around that is what protects the joint. So, imagine you get all these people that come in are like, oh my gosh, I just started running again, I got all these painful areas. Well, the whole factor of that is because all you’ve been doing is either running or you haven’t been running and there’s no strength component to it. So now we have osteoarthritis that develops, we have all these different things that are developing because of lack of strength, those muscles aren’t protecting those joints. And now you have those joints, so you have those menisci that are being compressed over and over and you don’t have any protection with those muscles. So that’s why I’m a huge advocate for females, males, any type of population, even the elderly at 98 years old, they’re doing squats, and that’s the best. [MELISSA]: Yep. And in my program, the main workouts that I have them do is the four main ones, you know, I’m putting like, chest and bi together, back and tri, like, legs, shoulder core, whatever, and everyone’s like, where’s the cardio? Like, what’s the… and I’m like, I don’t even want you worrying about that right now. Like, I want you getting strong. And you’re right, women come in and they think like, oh, I’m gonna get big, and I’m like, I lift six days a week, just because that’s me and my schedule, and whenever I have lifted with a man, I’m about half. I’ve said this before, and I think it’s important to repeat, but like example, if they’re using 30-pound dumbbells, I’m doing 15. If they’re doing 80 of something, I’m doing 40. I’m not a beast. Like, I’m not enormously huge. And I’m not roiding out or supplementing for that look, either. So, I think that’s a big misconception that women have. We just need more podcasts like this, of experts like yourself, telling them like, no, ladies, stop being a cardio bunny, get your ass in the weight room, because the benefits are endless. [CLINT]: Yeah, I think one key note to spring off you on that – and maybe not a lot of people know this, it seems like such a basic principle – but just like you were saying, you’re going in and doing 15 pounds when someone else, let’s say your guy friend’s doing 30, right? Well, at the end of the day, somebody who’s lifting and exercising, you don’t have to do like reps of four, which is like we would see that as like an 80% on the one rep max scale or something in that regards. If you went into reps of 12, to 15, to 17 reps, you’re building strength and endurance at the same time. So not only are you building that lean muscle, but you’re also focusing on a strength aspect as well. So, when people think of strength, they always think, oh, I got to do like a two-rep set, which is that’s great. That’s considered powerlifting. Anything below six reps pretty much is considered powerlifting. Well, outside of that, let’s say 10 to 15 reps. You’re working on strength and endurance. Now, you go for a run and you’ve been working out strength endurance with your legs for the last several weeks, months, now every time you go run you have no pains, you bounce back quicker, you heal faster, you feel great, you look great, your personality comes through, your positivity comes through, your mental wellness comes through, your nutrition comes through, your motivation comes through. [MELISSA]: Your abs come through. [CLINT]: Exactly. It’s an endless journey. [MELISSA]: Hey, this is a good time to take a quick break and to remind you that if you like this episode, please rate and review. It is just so helpful to me. I can’t tell you enough how much I appreciate it when you guys leave a review and rate. Also, if you want to connect a little bit more with me and learn a little bit more about how to be a Bomb Mom, make sure you sign up for my free – yes, free – email course. You can find it in the show notes, and you can also go to www.melissavogelfitness.com/course. And it’s not an insane long email course or anything like that, you guys, you’re going to get little golden nuggets from me just dripped on you in your email that’s going to help you open your eyes to what’s going on around you with your health, your wellness, your fitness, what you’re being exposed to in grocery store lines and the magazines and everything. You’re going to want to receive this free course. And then also in the course you’re going to get a free, 30 day, at home workout program that you can follow. This was a program that I had kind of created to hit every muscle group and it was something that was progressively going to get harder for me after I had that third baby, and getting back into shape, and you guys get it for free. So, you can start on day one, work your way to day 30 and it’s going to help you start taking the right steps to become that Bomb Mom. Alright, let’s get back to the show. [MELISSA]: You had posted the other day or, I don’t know, on your Instagram page – you guys got to follow him on Instagram and Tiktok. (A) you’re just a doll and (B) your content is great. [CLINT]: Oh, you follow me on Tiktok? Oh, man. [MELISSA]: Yeah, I do. [CLINT]: That is awesome. [MELISSA]: Don’t follow me because I’m a hot mess on there and I just started it. I’ve been proposed to like ten times. [CLINT]: Oh, yeah. It’s a battlefield out there. I’ve been on it for a couple months now and I feel like every day I’m still trying to figure it out a little bit. [MELISSA]: Yeah. Oh my god. Okay, so yes, you guys gotta follow him. You had posted the other day, it was like your three main exercises and you were talking about back, legs, and… [CLINT]: Core. [MELISSA]: Was it core? I couldn’t remember the third one. Talk about that post if you don’t mind. [Unclear] that, but I was like, oh my god, like, why doesn’t every person in the fitness industry post like this? Because it was so true. Like, how often do I lift that? And you’re like, every fucking day. You didn’t say that, I said it, but… tell us about that post because I want everyone to know about these three things that you’re incorporating all the time. [CLINT]: So, at the end of the day, this is great, because I know I don’t meet a lot of the standards of the wellness, fitness, physical therapy space because I… [MELISSA]: I don’t either. [CLINT]: I have my own ideology in a lot of ways. But it’s evidence. There’s evidence, research, and practice. That’s what I pride myself on is looking at the research, looking at the evidence, does it correlate with what we’re trying to do? And when it does every time, you can’t argue that. I come from a science background, so if you can’t prove it, then why are we doing it, right? We need to know the why. Anyways, so, my three pillars that I always take pride in is understanding that there’s no such thing as doing too much thoracic extension which is involved with lifting and strengthening your back muscles, and also doing legs, and core. Why do I say that? Because if we look at all the postural insufficiencies in this world, one of the biggest leading factors towards muscle pains and discrepancies and imbalances has everything to do with postural abnormalities, right? You get someone sitting on a desk six, five days a week at a job, eight to five, their posture is probably going to be a little kyphotic, meaning rolled in, if that makes sense. [MELISSA]: Yep, yep. [CLINT]: And so, these muscles that help protect us in a postural setting, what do they do? Well, they’re muscles that are meant to be strengthened, but also meant to have endurance because they have to go the entire day holding up someone’s posture. So why aren’t we training, or why aren’t we using these functional approaches and ideologies towards our benefit? And that comes with okay, so let’s say we’re doing some arm workouts and triceps, it doesn’t mean we can’t add in one or two leg exercises. It doesn’t mean we can’t add in a few back exercises every single time, and it doesn’t mean we can’t do a couple core. Now what I like to do and approach is, I’m sure everyone’s heard closed kinetic chain, but that means doing exercises that are like squats and, like, RDLs and type stuff. [MELISSA]: Romanian deadlifts. [CLINT]: Exactly. Yeah. Romanian deadlifts, where you’re like in contact with the ground. And what this does is this creates where you have to use a multi co-contraction approach. So, like, if we look at it, we’re using a lot of the posterior chain when you’re doing a Romanian deadlift or something in that regards, where you’re having to use your core to stabilize the two dumbbells on both sides? You’re having to use your legs, your glutes, your hamstrings, you’re having to use those rhomboids to engage and hold, so we can see how… [MELISSA]: Wait, wait, wait, so I don’t get that on an elliptical? [CLINT]: Exactly. [MELISSA]: I’m being an asshole. [CLINT]: Exactly. You know what I mean? So here we have one simple lift that is really hitting the entire posterior chain, along with requiring core activation. And it’s one exercise. So how do we not take that same approach into pretty much our entire fitness and wellness space, where now we’re creating a full, well rounded approach that is highlighting the three main pillars of good posture, good health, good joint and bone density. All of those things come in with this functional approach. And I always call it functional because what are we doing? We’re running, we’re on our feet, all the time, we’re swimming, we’re playing tennis, we’re playing basketball, we’re using all these muscles while we’re being on the ground. So why not strengthen in that realm? Why not use that functionality to our advantage and do it in a realm that strengthens us to be the best we could possibly be with having good posture? [MELISSA]: Absolutely. And posture is like such a… and mine’s a work in progress. It’s not perfect, but it’s like a pet peeve of mine. I have a daughter and her friends when they come over and stuff, I’m checking out their posture. I’m not gonna lie. I’m a weirdo about it, but like, it’s getting bad, Clint. It’s getting bad because kids are hunched over on their phones all the time and like, I mean, just rounded and their hips aren’t in the right place, I’m like, oh my God. And then when you’re in that position, and ladies, listen up to this, it literally makes you look like you’re about four months pregnant because of how you’re slouched and your hips are… what would that be called, rotated forward? You would know. [CLINT]: A posterior pelvic tilt. [MELISSA]: Yes, yes, that’s exactly it. And it makes you look heavier. It makes you look more pregnant, versus standing tall, stretching and slimming everything out. [CLINT]: Exactly. And let’s take it one step further, just like you’re saying, let’s say someone is more heavy chested, as we call it, or have a larger breast size, and we’ll just be professional about it. The thing is… [MELISSA]: I would have said, you got big boobs, but it’s fine. [CLINT]: Yeah. So, being as professional as possible, but that is huge. That is huge in regards to posture. Because if someone is carrying more weight up top like that, they’re gonna want to be brought more forward. It’s just we are always working against gravity as humans in the population. So that is where continuous thoracic extension exercises, really working on the back, really working on all those postural muscles, it doesn’t hurt you to do it all the time in a strength and endurance format because you’re using them all the time. And that’s what creates good posture. That’s what reduces, right, we see all the time in a frozen shoulder, I’m sure some ladies that might be listening to this have had a frozen shoulder in their life. But it’ll come from, you’re a heavy chested woman, someone who is in the age of 40 to 50 to 60 years old, usually Caucasian, sometimes a hairdresser. So all these things that correspond into creating this capsular adhesion type problem in the shoulder, and you see that all the time, and it’s from having just poor posture, and those could all be prevented with doing just a few thoracic extension exercises, doing a few leg exercises, because it starts from the ground up. [MELISSA]: Yeah. And you don’t want to be one of those 70-year-old women hunched over and just, you know, shriveling away, like, my grandma just passed away and she was 98 and you wouldn’t even know it. But she also mall walked, and stayed active and moving, and took care of her body, and… [CLINT]: Oh, yeah. I saw a guy who’s the oldest dude in California – I saw him probably seven months ago – he was 110. [MELISSA]: Oh my god. [CLINT]: He was 110 and he was walking. We were working on his balance and stuff, sure, but he was walking in his house. I asked him, what is the one secret you have? He says, I have two. One, I try not to have stress in my life and two, I walk three miles every single day. And he’s 110. There’s a reason why this all comes into play. He’s walking, he’s on his feet. He’s loading his joints. He’s staying strong in that format. Maybe he’s not doing like 50 squats a day, but he’s still getting his exercise. He’s still walking. He’s still moving. He’s still staying limber. And he’s keeping his cardiovascular up and he’s 110. [MELISSA]: Because if you don’t use it, you lose it. [CLINT]: And I’m a huge advocate for that. And once you do lose it, it’s harder to get back into rhythm. But once you get back into rhythm, it’s easy to stay and maintain. The hardest part is getting there. But once you get there, now you’ve created that space within your mind, where now you have that motivation to do it all the time. You’re starting to feel really good. You’re starting to feel really good about yourself. I mean, this is where you start taking off and fly. [MELISSA]: Yeah. Endless. Oh, it’s just so sad because there’s so many people that are like, oh, I can’t, it’s like, too late for me, and they’re like, frickin 37, you know, and they’re already putting on the way and now they’re on the medication and they got the whole Netflix and pizza every other day routine going on. They go to work, and they come home and they’re not living life and they just get sucked into this and they think it’s too late. [CLINT]: The vortex. And I made a post yesterday that I said, name one medication that will reduce pain, will reduce your cholesterol, will reduce your hypertension, will reduce the severity of cardiovascular disease. Give me one medication. And then at the very end I said that medication is exercise. [MELISSA]: Oh, I thought for sure it was aspirin. I thought, for sure, it was aspirin. No? [CLINT]: That’s so good. [MELISSA]: You’re totally right, though. [CLINT]: Oh, yes. Yes. I mean, you could argue that in some categories. [MELISSA]: No. No. [CLINT]: That’s why some people take baby aspirin, it helps with their blood viscosity and reducing their blood thickness. [MELISSA]: Right. But so, does exercise. [CLINT]: That’s right, and we’re back. [MELISSA]: And we’re back. Oh, but no, you’re right. And I did see that post. That was awesome. But you’re absolutely right. Why do you think people are in such denial about that? Because it takes work, like… [CLINT]: No, I just think… I think one is work. But I think we’re not meeting them where they are, truthfully. I think a lot of the time, everyone sees all these high fitness people – or people in the healthy environment… I’ll be honest with you, like nine out of ten people that I’m seeing throughout my day are about as low level as you could possibly get sometimes. Just had a stroke, there’s a lot of psychosocial factors involved, and we’re working from the ground up. And how do we meet them there? How do I take myself and meet them there? And it 100% comes with empathy and compassion and understanding where that person is. And that is what starts building trust, which then creates this entire plan, when they start understanding the why which then drives longevity. Because if you can meet them where they are, that’s when things become lightning. But as soon as someone feels like it’s a threat, meaning someone’s just taking, essentially, bodybuilding figure pictures all day, that’s just like a shout out of overwhelmingness, if that makes sense. [MELISSA]: Yeah. [CLINT]: You know what I mean? So now they’re like, oh, how is this person ever going to understand my circumstance? And that’s hard. And I would imagine being in that position, it’s very difficult. It’s very hard. So how do we put ourselves in that position? We start understanding what it feels like to be in that position, we start understanding why they might feel that way. And I always say, if we can start working on the emotions, the physical will always come. But not the other way around. You can’t just like, do the physical and say, okay, hey, the mental will turn around. It has to start; we have to start with figuring out what’s your why. And then from there, we can build everything around it. If we have no why, we got no chance. [MELISSA]: Okay, so this is a perfect time to lead into, tell me about your one on one consultations that you do. [CLINT]: Yeah. So, on the online space, what I’ve been noticing is a lot of people have been reaching out and asking, hey, like, are you going to do anything in regards to the health and wellness space? And I said, yeah, what I wanted to do, and then this is what I created. So, what I’ve created is, essentially what happens is, let’s say if someone signs up on my page, the first time they sign up for a first one on one consultation or session, they get a full assessment. So I send them a full assessment, they fill it out to the best of their capabilities, it goes through everything, it goes through like their past medical history of what they want to share, it goes through like current or past injuries, it goes through how they eat, their eating habits, their sleeping habits, their lifting or exercise regimens. And it creates this space where they’re not answering to me, they’re just answering to themselves. I always say, hey, just take it as authentically as possible. So, they fill out that whole thing and then it gets sent back. And then we go over it together. In the first session, we say, okay, these are the things that you feel like you need help in. And these are the things that you feel like you want to attain goal wise. And then from there, we start figuring out ways that they will improve, and let’s just say like, oh, I’ve been struggling with an exercise program and staying motivated, or right then and there, we know our two biggest focuses is not on the nutrition. This is where it becomes personalized because like, alright, we know that you’ve got a pretty good diet. We know your sleeping patterns are pretty good. We know you live a pretty active lifestyle, but yet, you’re struggling with the exercise regimen and you’re struggling with getting enough sleep, whatever, and motivation. So, let’s focus on those three things and we do it together. And now we start working on a plan together because when we are working on it as a team, that’s when we can have accountability, but most importantly, that’s when it starts building into longevity because they are very building it with me, they are starting to understand the why to why we are doing something. And then that makes you want to do it. So then, after they do that session, then we wait a month, and they have… I’m messaging them back and forth with any questions that they have along the way throughout that month, and then we meet up again on the next month. And then we do the same thing. We pick up where their progression is, and we say, okay, what can we fix? Or what can we do more? What can we do less? And throughout those months, they’re still staying in contact with me, they can always shoot me a message, say, hey, I got this quick question. What do you think I should do about this? And they have that answer right there, boom, it’s right there. It’s like concierge almost. And then, throughout the months, we have a new session every time and we keep meeting up. We keep holding that accountability and seeing where they’re at, seeing where they’ve kind of tapered off in some areas or where they keep progressing. And this is why, now you’re getting into like a seven-month span where you’ve been doing it, now you’re starting to realize there is a possibility of longevity. And that’s the whole formula. That’s why I’m not really big into like all these huge diet fads or supplements. I know I say it all the time on my account, but I’m not stuck in that process. I’m stuck in non [unclear] results, not the quick results. I want to know the why, I want to have the process, I want to work together as a team, because teams win championships. And that’s what I’m all about, in my book. [MELISSA]: Yep. This would be a great… and I’m totally thinking out loud and that’s dangerous for me – but it would be a great addition to people who work with me on my program, Busy to Bomb Fit Mom, and having that one on one attention with you as well. [CLINT]: Hundred percent. [MELISSA]: Something to think about, and I love how you do it a month at a time, give them a chance to like form those new habits, really digest everything instead of like, okay, we’re going to talk next week, like, I love that time space there. [CLINT]: Absolutely. The month is… and that’s where the month allows a little bit of freedom too, where they still have the option to hey, I have a quick question. But that month really gives it time to say okay, what’s happening at week three? Because when we have someone that’s just like throwing a program down our throat, or we’re getting the constant, okay, here’s nutrition, eat three grains of rice on Tuesday type plan, we’re really not understanding the why, we’re not building longevity, we’re just following suit until it gets over with. [MELISSA]: Yeah, I hate that. [CLINT]: Me and you both. [MELISSA]: Oh, it drives me nuts. And that’s the one thing people are always asking me like, what’s your meal plan? I always bring that up. I’m like, if you ask me for a meal plan, like, I’m not gonna work with you. That’s not what it’s about. So, do they buy packages with you? [CLINT]: Totally. Right now, everything I’m doing is 50% off right now. Because of the virus thing I just was like, you know what, let’s make it more accessible to anyone who needs it. You could do one session, or you could do seven, and I always recommend the seven because it puts you in a zone where you’re like, ready to go, you understand… [MELISSA]: Oh, for sure. [CLINT]: You know what I mean? And a lot of people benefit more. The one kind of gets them started, but then they quickly realize, okay, I want to do the full seven, because… so I offer both. I offer like, hey, just get your foot in the water and I offer hey, are you ready to do the whole thing? And most of the time when they get their foot in the water they’re like, okay, wow, this is… I gotta do the full set. You know what I mean? [MELISSA]: Yeah, yeah, for sure. [CLINT]: The seven is the way to go. And then you could always add on after the seven sessions, which it would be seven months and people do, and you can do those things, but that’s what I found is like a great number to shoot for first. [MELISSA]: Okay. Yeah, I agree. I totally agree. So where can people find you? Where can they find you to sign up and get more information on this? [CLINT]: They could come directly to my website; it’s called bodyofyouth.com. And then you can find me on Instagram, the exact same thing, @bodyofyouth, and you can find me on Tiktok, same gig, @bodyofyouth. [MELISSA]: I love your name, Body of Youth. That’s awesome. How did you come up with that? [CLINT]: Great question. So, body of youth was something I always looked for like an outer side lens, bringing in. What are we… as the human population, what are we always trying to achieve? We’re always trying to achieve to be as youthful as possible. We’re always trying to be one year younger than what we are. So, in the grand scheme of things, we are becoming our own body of youth as individuals. We won’t find that and sustain that body of youth through the one stop shop. It needs to be a whole person approach. It needs to be a whole person’s perspective. It needs to be a whole side of wellness, mental and physical and emotional, and it needs to be all well rounded. Because the true youth comes from innocence. It comes from a place of I’m just going to go out and run and not have to worry about things, no pain, and strength and all these things. Everyone wants that happiness. And that comes with attaining your own body of youth. [MELISSA]: Yeah. Oh my god, it’s so perfect. [CLINT]: Oh, I love it. Yeah, that’s how I came up with it. [MELISSA]: Yeah, it’s so fitting. And you guys, if you’re driving and you’re listening to this, remember, everything’s in the show notes. So, don’t worry about like scrambling for a pen while you’re driving. Everything’s in the show notes and it’s easy to find. Clint, I feel like I could talk to you for hours upon hours. We might have to do a part two. [CLINT]: You just let me know. But I feel like this was a good surface to just start. I mean, I feel like you get two of us talking you could go down the rabbit hole really quickly. [MELISSA]: Real fast, real fast. [CLINT]: Real fast. But I feel like we did pretty good on maintaining surface level stuff. I’m proud of us. [MELISSA]: We did so good. So now, are you offering a free assessment to our listeners? That’s what they all want to know. [CLINT]: Yes, of course. Anyone who wants to email me, and you can go directly to the website, and you can just sign up, and you can email me saying, hey, I listened to the podcast, I’m from the podcast, I’ll send you one right away, and you’ll get that full assessment. So, you can take it all on your own, you can see what it’s about, you can see where you need work, or where you’re going. Hundred percent free for everyone from the podcast. [MELISSA]: Yeah, you guys, take advantage of it because if you’re one of those people that are like, God, I don’t even know where to start. I’m scared. Like, I don’t want to do this alone. Take advantage of the free shit (A) and (B) you don’t have to be alone and you can discover why you’re scared. Well, what’s the root of that? Why haven’t you taken the first steps yet? Because it’s not your fault. You know? [CLINT]: Hundred percent. Yeah. It’s a team game. At the end of the day, life’s all about a team game. [MELISSA]: We don’t do anything alone in life. [CLINT]: Absolutely not. [MELISSA]: I don’t know why people think that they should go about their fitness alone. [CLINT]: it’s a tough rocky road if it’s individually, and you just don’t have a lot of… and that’s why we call it… that’s why you are a professional. That’s why you go and see the dentist. That’s why you go see the therapist. That’s why you go see the doctor. That’s why you go see all these different aspects because they’re the professional in that category, and they’re your teammate, and they’re there to help you, and they’re there to help you win. So that’s what we got to utilize. [MELISSA]: Yeah, absolutely. Oh, well, thank you so much for being on the podcast. We’re gonna have to do this again. We’re definitely gonna have to do this again. [CLINT]: Oh, that is awesome. [MELISSA]: Dive in deeper. All right, you guys, thank you so much for joining us today. Make sure you check out the show notes, but you can find him at @bodyofyouth on Instagram, Tiktok, and his website bodyofyouth.com. Thank you again, Clint. I can’t wait to have you on. [CLINT]: Alright. Thank you so much. [MELISSA]: Alright. Bye, everyone. Thank you. If you’re ready to become a bomb mom, join my free course over at www.melissavogelfitness.com/course. This podcast is designed to provide accurate and authoritative information in regard to the subject matter covered. This is given with the understanding that neither the host, Practice of the Practice, or the guests are providing legal, mental health, nutritional, or other professional information. If you need a professional, you should find one.